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When the world came to a screeching

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halt, many live music

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tours were postponed, including

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the Alanis Morrisette's tour for

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Such Pretty Forks in the Road,

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her first original album since 2012.

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The tour also includes fellow

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90s singer Liz Phair.

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Those shows are scheduled to begin

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again at the Hollywood Bowl next

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June.

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The L.A. Times sat in on

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a recent conversation with Liz

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and Alanis, to hear how they're

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doing at home during quarantine.

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OK.

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Oh,.

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So, we were supposed to be touring

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right now.

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I know I was stuck in silence for

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that. Yeah.

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A lot of crestfallen

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is the word thinking.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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We will we shall do it again.

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But I don't, nobody wants to do

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it when people are afraid or we're

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afraid of being in the same room,

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right? it's a beautiful time.

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I just I love how alchemically

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we're being crunching this corner

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of potential

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awakening. I mean, I feel like on

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the other side of this, if there is

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another side,

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I feel as there were a lot

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of us, we're just kind of

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asked circumstantially, what

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matters? You know, what matters the

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most and what do we value

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and what do you care about?

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Because in America, it's always been

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like, "I want to be 20 forever."

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Now it's probably 17.

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I want to look 17 forever.

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Used to be "I want to be a

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millionaire," now.

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Everyone's got to be a billionaire.

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Shoot for that trillionaire.

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And then what was the other way of

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fame?

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Just used to be a way to show

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up as a as a default activist,

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as a social commentator,

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as an artist, you know, and then now

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it just seems like fame is the goal.

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So right now, I feel like everyone's

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going OK. What are the new, what's

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the new value system?

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You know, and then everything's been

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politicized, like everything's

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been politicized.

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Everything's so divided because of

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the so-called leadership that we

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basically don't have right now.

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Yeah.

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So I just think it's a really

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beautiful time,

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but it's also a redefining

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time.

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And the Instagrammers can't go

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to these awesome places.

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They can't look fabulous.

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They're stuck at home.

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And so there is a sense of

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the superficiality, kind

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of like lifting off the way

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like, you know, suds

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dissolve oil.

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It's like, what are you left with?

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You know, there's a whole world of

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of messaging, of

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fear to go within.

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You know, if I go within, there's

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nothing's going to be there.

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I'm just going to be filled with

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fear and pain.

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And, yes, some of that is true if

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we're sublimating and repressing

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everything. When we go in, we're

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gonna see it, but we see it when we

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go into write songs.

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Right?

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Anything that I'm not allowed to

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feel as a kid.

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It was like couldn't be angry,

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couldn't be scared.

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That was a no no.

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And we couldn't be scared.

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And we couldn't be scared or so

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counterphobic like all the time, and

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then couldn't be sad.

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So my songs are like angry,

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anxiety, and, you

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know, people meet me, they're like,

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you're not quite what I expected.

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I was like, well,

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it's because my songs are taking

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care of all the stuff back here.

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There's also that the distinction

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between cathartic

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writing right?

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It moves it, the energies moving,

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I'm not stuck.

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But then I used to think that I

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could write songs and just never

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have to deal with human beings.

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I'll be like, you know what? I'm
really

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angry, that person, so I'm gonna go

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over here in a room, quiet, alone

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and write about it and then never

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talk to them.

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So

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it was it was really cathartic, but

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I noticed that a lot of the songs

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that I'd written about other people

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when I would perform them, full

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catharsis,

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like super spent at the end of the

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show. But still, if that person

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walked in, the room there would

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still be some unrest, you know?

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I think it's it's not necessarily

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healing because a lot

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of people are like, oh, must be so

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healing to write these songs.

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It's clarifying.

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It's empowering.

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I feel responsible for the current

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of energy.

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But it just doesn't necessarily heal

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the relationship itself.

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You know, but the theory is that if

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we're wounded in relationship, we're

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going to be healed in relationship.

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And I was like, oh, man, let's try

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to get away with just writing songs

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about it, never having to show up.

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So now it's like trying to apply

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that sweet, sacred, almost,

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you know, super reliable process

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of songwriting, flyback.

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Same approach

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to my relationships.

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Ultimately, your family does look to

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the mom. Like, how are we going to,

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what is our safety parameters with

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this pandemic?

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How much we're gonna let ourselves

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interact and how much are we not?

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And I think a lot of times that is

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the mom that's going to decide that

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ultimately, especially with young

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kids, it's obvious partnership with

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your husband. But there is a sense

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that like final word will be mom,

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like, how safe are we going to be?

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And just to have, like,

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such a young baby right

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now.

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I know friends that are pregnant

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right now, too, and I just keep

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telling them everything's OK.

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We're going to be great.

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You mean that when you say it to

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them or are you worried for them?

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They're going

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to be fine. I mean, the babies

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are going to be all loved up and

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it's going to be OK.

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We really do, I think we're we're

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all going to be OK after everything

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we've just talked about.

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Everything's going to be totally

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fine.

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Thanks, Mom.

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No problem sweetheart.

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So glad to see your face.

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I can't wait till we actually

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tour. I'm so looking forward to it.

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I missed it very much this summer.

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I can't wait. And you, thought

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of touring with you just is really.

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It actually is very healing for me.